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1tonscout
07-31-2005, 03:55 PM
post'em and give specs

here is my new tow rig I just picked it up friday night 07/29/05


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/slydog72007/e186c31e.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/slydog72007/3ea8f62b.jpg

it is a 2005 F-250 2 wheel drive:

5.4 Triton v8
5 speed automatic
sterling 10.25
3.73 gear ratio with limited slip diff
8,800# payload

oh............yeah!

It's a FORD



;)

WILL
07-31-2005, 07:23 PM
Here's my 78 dodge in need of a new engine.

http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/921172-truck%20and%20trailer.JPG

Ranger_man
08-05-2005, 06:16 PM
post'em and give specs

here is my new tow rig I just picked it up friday night 07/29/05




it is a 2005 F-250 2 wheel drive:

5.4 Triton v8
5 speed automatic
sterling 10.25
3.73 gear ratio with limited slip diff
8,800# payload

oh............yeah!

It's a FORD



;)

I work on the Base, and we use Ford PowerStroke Bobtails.

These trucks are goverened for 37mph, but we can drag 18,000+ pounds with no hesitation at all.

As far as I am concerned with the power strokes, you could strap them to the gates of hell, and they'll pull the @$$ right out of them.

1tonscout
08-05-2005, 08:40 PM
I work on the Base, and we use Ford PowerStroke Bobtails.

These trucks are goverened for 37mph, but we can drag 18,000+ pounds with no hesitation at all.

As far as I am concerned with the power strokes, you could strap them to the gates of hell, and they'll pull the @$$ right out of them.

I couldn't afford the powerstroke......................it is a $5,000 dollar option.........................I am doing good to be able to afford the 5.4 gas burner.........................maybe one of these days but no time soon

it sure beats the hell out of my 87 chevrolet though ;D

djgaston
09-26-2005, 04:13 PM
I finally got a real tow rig... the Vortec 6.0 wasn't cutting it when I was pulling some heavy stuff so I got a Cummins 600.

2004.5 Dodge Ram 2500 4x4, Cummins 325hp/600 ft.lb diesel, NV5600 6 speed trans, AAM 1150 rear axle, AAM 925 front axle (STRAIGHT AXLE!) with 3.73 gears... added an Edge EZ chip for 100 ft.lb extra, and an Edge "hot" Juice with Attitude monitor for another 200+ ft.lbs of torque. MBRP cool dual exhaust, cat delete pipe, AFE stage 2 pro guard 7 intake, and more coming this week. I am right at about 1000 ft.lbs of torque now and approximately 600 hp.

http://www.djgaston.com/images/deezel/deezel1.jpg

More pics: http://www.djgaston.com/cummins I am lifting it and putting 37's under it this week.

shrek2
09-26-2005, 08:58 PM
DJ, I hope your trailer has a strong hitch! :o

So when are we gonna take it to centerville?

djgaston
09-26-2005, 11:03 PM
I am actually trying to find a good used gooseneck trailer... wouldn't mind one as long as 40 feet so I can pull two Jeeps at once, or my Dodge and Jeep together.

Centerville? What is going on there?

BJ_Richardson
09-27-2005, 04:25 AM
1/8th mile drags ;D

Tweeder
09-27-2005, 06:39 PM
huh? i thought Centerville has a 1/4 mile drag ???

BJ_Richardson
09-28-2005, 08:16 AM
you can run an 1/8th or a 1000'

if i remember right the slips give a 60' time and a 1000' time



anything over a 9 sec isn't very impressive there ;) hell a stock WRX will do that

djgaston
10-16-2005, 05:52 PM
Here are a few new pics of mine with the lift n stuff.

http://www.djgaston.com/images/deezel/deezel100.jpg

http://www.djgaston.com/images/deezel/deezel105.jpg

http://www.djgaston.com/images/deezel/deezel102.jpg

tweeder
10-18-2005, 08:30 PM
i don't get this "lifting a tow rig" business..... ???

rovernut
10-19-2005, 12:38 AM
i don't get this "lifting a tow rig" business..... ???
The way you squatted on Don's 101 for 10 minutes, I don't think you get this "lifting a BII" business either. ;D

Scuba Jeepster
10-19-2005, 06:31 AM
lol lol lol lol

Tweeder
10-19-2005, 10:28 AM
it's Shannon's d@mn fault for picking that schitty line for the "stockers" :-X

sandbag234
10-19-2005, 07:36 PM
It seems funny that nobody else had any problems. Probably because they were in a JEEP!!

djgaston
10-19-2005, 07:42 PM
i don't get this "lifting a tow rig" business..... ???

It's also a daily driver pickup... with 3.73 gears and 37 inch tires, my fuel mileage ROCKS! Plus, the truck flat out hauls *** like no other. Then when I tow, I just use my chips to dump more fuel and it still pulls like a beast. The lift was just to simply clear the size tire I wanted to run. I tried to do it with just a 2 inch spacer up front but it didn't work.

rovernut
10-20-2005, 07:13 PM
It seems funny that nobody else had any problems. Probably because they were in a JEEP!!

I beg your pardon.

Scuba Jeepster
10-20-2005, 09:10 PM
I beg your pardon.


Well you have yours looking and acting so much like a Jeep he just over looked it :)

sandbag234
10-21-2005, 02:14 AM
I beg your pardon.


Sorry Rovernut, I forgot you were there!! :-[ :-[

sureshot40sw
02-09-2007, 04:47 PM
'94 F350 dually, 7.3 turbo, 4 door

new 7.3 IDI turbo with 30,000ish miles
new turbo and all related hardware
new alternator
new water pump
new radiator
two new 35K lb trans. coolers

new OVER BUILT e4od auto trans:
4 disc torque converter
HD clutches and belts for towing
hardened mainshaft
mainshaft bushing to bearing upgrade
shift kit
billet steel 6 gear planetary overdrive (replaced cast 4 gear unit)
high pressure pump
upgraded front seal
new seals everywhere else

105 gal. bed mounted fuel tank (plumbed into front tank filler neck)
mudflaps
Pioneer CD w/remote
tinted windows
cruise
tilt
power windows
sliding rear windows
15K lb class V reciever hitch
frame mounted gooseneck hitch (needs a ball)
weight distribution hitch with trunion bars
4.10's
good tires


it'll pull 11K lb campers through the mountains and not even drop outta OD .... it's a pulling beast, just don't plan on being the first one there... 75mph is where she likes to run...parts are a helluvalot cheaper than a PSD...


http://us.f343.mail.yahoo.com/y5/s/viewphoto?get=previewimg&folderid=%2540S%2540Searc h&mid=1_5073_2_11071_0_AJGyo0IAACtbRQs2vgc74yaj9QI &partid=4


http://www.jeeps-offroad.com/reader-rigs/albums/1994-F-350-7-3-Turbo-Dee-zul/F_350002.jpg

http://www.jeeps-offroad.com/reader-rigs/albums/1994-F-350-7-3-Turbo-Dee-zul/F_350003.jpg

Cappy
06-09-2007, 03:17 PM
At the risk of sounding like an idiot. Would there be any problem with a mid-size truck w/ a 6500lb tow capacity(and the tow package to go with it of course) pulling a Wrangler? It would also have to be my DD. I'd just be towing from NLR to HS and maybe a trip out to Grey Rock or Morris Mountain in AL. I looked at Full-size trucks/SUVs, but i just like the look of any of them. I orginally thought about a Hemi Jeep GC, but at 33k its a pushing the finances. Opinions? Thanks

1tonscout
06-10-2007, 11:56 AM
like a durango???????

I would never haul anything with a mid sized except what you could fit in the bed.................the 6500# tow rating is for the truck and trailer and whatever you are towing not what you can pull in a trailer

I have seen people do it but I wouldnt suggest it

it will pull it but will it stop it ?

just my .02 cents

Cappy
06-10-2007, 04:30 PM
It sounds like to me like you are describing the truck's GVWR. Going with your line of thinking a truck with a towing capacity of 6500lbs can actually only tow about 1000lbs? 4000lb truck + 1500lb(ish) trailer= 5500lbs. That doesnt make a lot of sense to me. If thats the case, then my Wrangler cant tow the 2000lbs that its rated for, b/c the Jeep itself weighs @3500lbs.

C.J.
06-10-2007, 06:09 PM
What do you mean by midsize? I have never pulled with any thing other than a 1/2 ton p/u. But my way of thinking is if it is rated for it and you have trailer brakes go for it. XXXJ has a reg cab short bed 1/2 ton and pulls my old trailer that ways near 4000#s empty plus his xj on it with no problems.

Scuba Jeepster
06-10-2007, 08:43 PM
You really need at least 1/2 ton pickup it's a good load going that route diesel is the best [smiley=thumbsup.gif].

Wish I had one!

BJ_Richardson
06-11-2007, 05:03 PM
The general rule of thumb is 50% of your tow vehicle weight without trailer brakes 100% with.

jkjeep
06-11-2007, 05:49 PM
I've pulled a 3600 pound car on a car trailer in a Dodge Dakota with better brakes and a tranny cooler and no problems. Yes the Dakota was a 5.3l v8 rated at 8500 pounds towing I think (was a long time ago).

I also know a couple that bought a big *** 5th wheel trailer to go camping in with their big n' bad diesel f-350 and burnt the tranny lol.

Tweeder
06-11-2007, 09:02 PM
I also know a couple that bought a big *** 5th wheel trailer to go camping in with their big n' bad diesel f-350 and burnt the tranny lol.

aint no such thing as a bulletproof auto tranny. chevy offers one that comes close, but it aint even their own tranny.

if yer towin', manual all the way. just can't beat a good manual for durability 8-)

C.J.
06-11-2007, 09:28 PM
aint no such thing as a bulletproof auto tranny. *chevy offers one that comes close, but it aint even their own tranny.

-


I hope you are not talking about the Allison. You better call superior spring, ask for monkey, before you start repeating those statements *;)


If you feel comfortable Pulling it go ahead. Just be more careful. I know people that have overloaded S-10s and 1/2 ton trucks on a regular basis. With no problems. The key is take care of it and be easy.... dont abuse!

If you want bulletproof buy an N-14 Cummins and a Eaton/fuller tranny :P

Tweeder
06-11-2007, 10:07 PM
I hope you are not talking about the Allison. You better call superior spring, ask for monkey, before you start repeating those statements *;)

key term is "comes close" ;)

given the choice, i wouldn't tow with anything without a clutch and -- preferably -- a granny gear 8-)

i've towed with autos. always sucked. IMO, towing with an auto is ALWAYS "abuse" :(

BJ_Richardson
06-12-2007, 01:39 AM
Keep them in fresh fluid and cool and they can last. Stick a guage on it and if your average temp is over 200* you are too hot. Ideal average would be ~160* and no more than 200* under a heavy load on a steep grade. If you are going to push the limits often you need a big cooler. Another thing you could do to help make the stepped up maintenance easier is to install an external (spin on) tranny filter.

I'd prefer a stick too in a oil burner, but in a light truck the clutch in a stick just aren't going to be up to the task. Look at the tow rating on all (1/2 ton or smaller) trucks/SUV's and the tow rating is always substantially less with a standard.

Ranger_man
06-12-2007, 06:05 AM
My 4.0 Ranger with a stick was rated for 6000# with an auto, 3600# witha stick. However, I did tow 6000# on a few ocasions with it, and was fine. I had no trailer brakes, and hence stopping required some distance. That was just because I was feeling the rear leafs wrap.

Tweeder
06-12-2007, 07:58 AM
manuals used to be rated equal to autos. but (relatively) nobody can drive a manual anymore, the OEMs under-rate the manual so that John Q. Dipstick doesn't get in over his head and screw something up.

weekender1969
06-16-2007, 08:03 AM
Only have experience towing with a Ford, and they work just fine. An F150 would yank a Jeep anywhere you want it to.

I have been driving F150's at work for over ten years and they fit the bill on towing a Jeep. I used to tow a 6500 lbs plus generator about 35 to 40% of the time and never had a problem. Get one with the tow package and be done.

I have to say, the F250 with the Powerstroke that I am now driving would pull a friggin house. But if you aint towing all the time, the extra expense of a deisel aint worth it. Heck an oil change is $75.00, filters are $75 and up, it's just to expensive to justify if you aint towing 90% of the time.

You can pick up F150's that are just a few years old for under 15K all over the place. These trucks are just made for working, ugly as sin but they are tough.

1tonscout
06-16-2007, 08:35 AM
[quote author=C.J. link=1122846937/15#29 date=1181615309]I hope you are not talking about the Allison. You better call superior spring, ask for monkey, before you start repeating those statements *;)

key term is "comes close" ;)

given the choice, i wouldn't tow with anything without a clutch and -- preferably -- a granny gear 8-)

i've towed with autos. *always sucked. *IMO, towing with an auto is ALWAYS "abuse" :(

HOW IS PULLING WITH AN MANUAL BETTER????

you are an idiot........................all I have to do is put my F-250 in drive and mash the skinny pedal the transmission does the rest
and how is it abuse

it is only abuse if you use a half ton truck to pull a one ton load it's called common sence

my automatic in my f 250 is just as stout as a manual transmission

C.J.
06-16-2007, 10:47 AM
I have to say, the F250 with the Powerstroke that I am now driving would pull a friggin house. But if you aint towing all the time, the extra expense of a deisel aint worth it. Heck an oil change is $75.00, filters are $75 and up, it's just to expensive to justify if you aint towing 90% of the time.



Exactly not everybody can make it feasible to buy a 3/4 ton diesel just to pull their toy once a month.

Technology is a beautiful thing cars are faster now than they "used to be" and Auto transmissions are now built to take lots of abuse. But it is all a matter of opinion. Whatever melts your butter ;)

1tonscout
06-16-2007, 06:01 PM
my f-250 is a 5.4L and it will pull with any diesel HANDS DOWN! ;)

sureshot40sw
06-17-2007, 01:16 AM
Ford auto's SUCK when in stock form... just look around on pirate at how many have replaced the auto's behind the PSD's... we drive em at work and have replaced two so far.... they can be built to handle the power, but it's spensive... the problem is that FORD doesnt put a big enuff cooler on from the start.... the stock auto's are marginal at best....

i built mine in my 7.3 Turbo IDI deezul to handle anyting that I can think of to pull.... I swapped the 2 disk converter for a HD 4 disk, swapped the stock mainshaft to a hardened shaft, changed the mainshaft bushing to a bearing, all HD clutches and belts designed for pulling (not kevlar, they heat up while pulling and slip), shift kit, bumped up the pump to compensate for the DUAL 35K lb external coolers, swapped the 4 gear cast aluminum OD planetaries for a 6 gear billet steel OD set and new style HD seals.... I'm sure I forgot something but you get the idea....

before building mine I could pull a camper at 60 mph.... in the mtns, 15-20mph at most.... after building it, I can now pull at 70-75mph and never get out of OD in the mtns.... I used to haul campers around the country for the manufacturers....

checkout www.brianstruckshop.com .. they have the stoutest FORD tranny available....


manuals DO pull better (in stock form and heavy loads) becuz you dont have the slip from the torque converter to deal with... all of your power goes to the ground.... why do you think semi's have manuals....?

1tonscout
06-17-2007, 07:09 AM
we will agree to disagree I have an 05' F-250 with a 5.4 L Triton v8 and a automatic transmission with the tow/haul mode and my SUPERDUTY pulls great I would never own another standard transmission because the clutch wears out it is pretty expensive to replace it...........been there done that your not gonna convince my otherwise and I dont have to worry what gear it needs to be in to pull a hill it shifts itself I use to drive 18 wheelers I hate standards I hate shifting and I think auto's pull better no questions asked 8-) so dont sit there and try to convince me that manuals are better than a automatic ................. my trailrig even has an automatic ,I wouldnt have it any other way................ *;)

sureshot40sw
06-17-2007, 12:08 PM
I'm not trying to convince you or change your mind of anything..... I didnt say anything about a 5.4 ... I said PSD .... that stands for PowerStroke Deezul.... ::)

I mean since they have basically the same tranny behind them both.... I'm sure the little 5.4 does fine, the big block deezul needs a stronger unit.....

I would suggest a larger external cooler even for the 5.4..... hell I have a HUGE cooler on my a4ld in the sploder... .I never get over 160* .....


and I do agree about using an auto.... If you take care of em and keep em cool and stay within the factory tow ratings, usually ya dont have as much of a problem, specially if ya build em for pulling.... I can now drag 25K lbs and up easy without worrying at all.....



I wouldn't trade mine for anything................. now ;)

Scuba Jeepster
06-17-2007, 01:55 PM
OPINIONS OPINIONS :o there's enough differant ones to go around that's for sure. ;D

Cappy
06-17-2007, 09:45 PM
Wow! I didnt mean to start an e-agrument! ;D Heck, all I wanted to know is if I could tow my Jeep with a mid-size truck(tacoma), w/ a tow package, and a trailer w/ trailer brakes. I guess if the truck is rated to tow it, then i will be just fine.

C.J.
06-17-2007, 09:51 PM
We're used to it ;)

Tweeder
06-17-2007, 10:11 PM
I would never own another standard transmission because the clutch wears out it is pretty expensive to replace it.......

we'll see if you're still singing the same tune when you waste that auto.....you only THINK a $500 clutch is expensive (7.3L PSD). wait until you have to drop in excess of $1200 on a rebuild of that auto (provided you have a professional rebuild it).

the company truck i drive is a V6 F150 with no low end and a fairly high geared manual -- over 250k on the factory clutch driving in ALL types of traffic conditions and frequently loaded beyond its GVWR. an auto wouldn't have lasted 1/3 that long.

C.J.
06-17-2007, 10:41 PM
::) ::) I will pull with whatever I come across for cheap. If it happens to be a f-350 psd with a std for half the blue book so be it. But chances are it would get sold for a profit to someone who thinks they NEED it and I will keep my 1/2 ton. There is a big difference in medium duty trucks (1 ton) and heavy duty (13 speed fuller) Just don't be putting gobs of power in front of your stock medium duty std. I know guys that work on medium and heavy duty trucks everyday and guess what they have behind their bullydog'd (sp?) PSDs and Cummins???? not a manual. I will listen to the guys that work on them for a living ;)

Tweeder
06-17-2007, 10:50 PM
I know guys that work on medium and heavy duty trucks everyday and guess what they have behind their bullydog'd (sp?) PSDs and Cummins???? *not a manual. I will listen to the guys that work on them for a living ;)

not because the manual won't hold the torque, though. it's just rather difficult to row through the gears fast enough to keep that needle off the redline when yer givin' it he|| :) but it sure is fun trying 8-)

BJ_Richardson
06-18-2007, 01:44 AM
(tacoma).

-04' NO. 05+ gently ;)

C.J.
06-18-2007, 07:27 AM
I know guys that work on medium and heavy duty trucks everyday and guess what they have behind their bullydog'd (sp?) PSDs and Cummins???? *not a manual. I will listen to the guys that work on them for a living ;)

not because the manual won't hold the torque, though. *it's just rather difficult to row through the gears fast enough to keep that needle off the redline when yer givin' it he|| :) * but it sure is fun trying *8-)

Sorry I will spell it out. Its cause they have seen to many of them broke. :P

Tweeder
06-18-2007, 07:52 AM
Its cause they have seen to many of them broke. :P


proof that the manuals are somehow weaker than that POS auto?

C.J.
06-18-2007, 12:02 PM
I dont have time to sit and research everything on the web like some people ::) I just listen to the guys that work on them day in and day out. Call Superior and ask for the shop Foreman They call him monkey or just wait cause he will be at the park with me this year sometime. In his cummins with an auto :o ;D ;D ;D

olivedrabcj7
06-19-2007, 11:26 AM
not ideal....but it does the job

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v309/maw05/Picture041.jpg

weekender1969
06-20-2007, 10:01 PM
Its cause they have seen to many of them broke. :P


proof that the manuals are somehow weaker than that POS auto?

I've been watching this thread and I can tell ya tweeder, you aint never overloaded a manual, and I mean really overloaded it. I had a 96 F150 with the 4.9 litre (300CI) 6 cylinder and the 5 speed manual tranny, I routinely hauled a 40 foot trailer loaded with hay, it plain sucked. Yes it got the job done and the engine had plenty of torque, but the clutch only lasted to 75,000 miles and it would have yanked a jeep any where you wanted it, but it plain sucked in any condition other than open roads. And before you mention it, up until this point in my life I had only driven manuals and I had never replaced a clutch till then, so it aint my driving. Now I have driven F150's and, now, an F250, all with automatics and have towed even heavier loads, I like the automatics to no end and I have NEVER had an issue in 10 years of towing with autos.
Whoever told you that a manual was just as good as an automatic for towing is only trying to justify their purchase of a manual.
Ask anyone who has ever towed with both, and they will vote for the automatic every time.

Like I said previously, a manual behind a half ton pickup will yank a jeep anywhere you want it, but if you have a choice; trust me, get the AUTO!!! ;)

Tweeder
06-20-2007, 10:16 PM
Whoever told you that a manual was just as good as an automatic for towing is only trying to justify their purchase of a manual.
Ask anyone who has ever towed with both, and they will vote for the automatic every time.


sorry Dale, but you are wrong there. i've towed with both and will pick a manual every time. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Ranger_man
06-21-2007, 06:07 AM
Whoever told you that a manual was just as good as an automatic for towing is only trying to justify their purchase of a manual.
Ask anyone who has ever towed with both, and they will vote for the automatic every time.


sorry Dale, but you are wrong there. *i've towed with both and will pick a manual every time. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

+1

jeependude
06-21-2007, 02:35 PM
[smiley=beer.gif] ;D [smiley=beer.gif] ;D [smiley=beer.gif] ;D

What a usefull topic! 8-)

jeependude
06-21-2007, 02:37 PM
I prefer a team of sled dogs. But we dont have enough snow here! :o

sureshot40sw
06-21-2007, 04:32 PM
Whoever told you that a manual was just as good as an automatic for towing is only trying to justify their purchase of a manual.
Ask anyone who has ever towed with both, and they will vote for the automatic every time.



wrong..... maybe you should ask everybody who has towed with both before making a blanket statement like this...

I been driving since I was 6.... started working in the log woods at 12..... I have hauled everything from a 5x10 with a lawnmower to a 50 foot gooseneck with a skidder on it..... log trucks not included for these purposes ;) ...... a couple years ago I usd my dooly to haul campers around the country for the manufacturers in Indiana...... trust me.... at least 80% of the doolys used in the business are manuals..... the autos are usually heavily modified.... my personal experience between stock auto and modified auto was 15-20 mph in mtns with stock and 70 mph in mtns with modified.....

I wanted a manual when I found this one.... if it wasnt for a brand new engine, turbo and all I woulda passed.............I prefer a standard.....


bottom line anything over the rated towing capacity for a FACTORY vehicle is bad for it.... no matter if its manual or auto.... the rest is personal preference....

1tonscout
06-21-2007, 10:33 PM
can we stop beating a dead horse *::)...............this is just plain silly

if you want a manual get a frickin manual
if you want a automatic get an automatic

GOOD GRIEF

I WANTED AN AUTOMATIC SO I GOT ONE.................THAT IS WHAT I PREFER

I have also found that tow rating on automatics and manuals are the same by manufactures specs

me PERSONALLY will from this point on will chose automatics as my transmission of choice

BJ_Richardson
06-25-2007, 01:39 PM
can we stop beating a dead horse *::)...............this is just plain silly

if you want a manual get a frickin manual
if you want a automatic get an automatic

GOOD GRIEF



The best reply so far!

rovernut
06-30-2007, 11:34 AM
I'll take a 10 speed Road Ranger for the highway and an old twin stick Mack for around town. 8-)

Hunter
09-26-2007, 02:03 AM
Hummer Hauler and sailboats
95 Cummins Turbo diesel 12 Valve,custom intake, 4"exhaust,govplate mod,4000rpm govsprings, wastegate mod, turbo boost to 40 lb,pump timing up 21 degrees,Suncoast triple lock torque convertor, moded valve body,tranny custom engineered with double deep pan, 300 hp/600ftlbs,135 gallons fuel,gooseneck hitch and other stuff I fergit!

tawneyp
10-20-2007, 07:05 PM
ok so here is my tow rig.
It is an 06 GMC 2500HD. Fully loaded with a leveling kit and 285's. Will pull anything that you hook to it.

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd148/tawneyp/truckdamage002.jpg

Tweeder
10-22-2007, 09:27 AM
what tha hell is that white **** everywhere? ;)

tawneyp
10-23-2007, 03:37 AM
That would be snow. Since Uncle Sam moved me too alaska three years ago this is what i get to play with for 8 months a year.:grin: Makes wheeling a little intersting.

Ryans_JK
11-08-2007, 09:08 AM
Here is my new tow rig. My wifes V8 WJ was just not quite cutting it. So in it's place is a 2005 F-350 Lariat PSD 4x4. Pulling with this truck is a dream and it still gets 13-14 mpg towing on the freeway.

Here is a pic of it with another one of my projects on the trailer.


http://www.duppong.com/gallery2/d/10214-2/DSCF0099.jpg

Jed
11-08-2007, 12:45 PM
My wifes V8 WJ was just not quite cutting it.

What did you tow with this? How far? Where was it lacking? I've been on the fence about doing this, but haven't tried yet.

TURNEROFFROAD
11-08-2007, 03:13 PM
HERE'S MINE 1995 GMC K3500 SRW 4X4 CREW CAB WITH 12 VALVE CUMMINS SWAP, NV4500 4.10 GEARS AND 10 INCHES OF LIFT ON 38.5 TRXUS MT'S. CAT TURBO AND A FEW OTHER PERFORMANCE MODS, 13 INCH CLUTCH ---- FUEL MILEAGE IS AS FOLLOWS ON ROAD TOWING 1 RIG 18MPG , 2 RIGS 16-18 MPG OAND UNLOADED 23 ON INTERSTATE NOT TOO SHABBY FOR A BUILDER



JESUS ROCKS

C.j.
11-08-2007, 03:15 PM
Thats better than the duramax's Ive seen. They all seem to get about 10mpg pulling anything. Nice looking truck though:smiley:

Ryans_JK
11-16-2007, 12:12 AM
What did you tow with this? How far? Where was it lacking? I've been on the fence about doing this, but haven't tried yet.

I put airlift helper bags in the rear and would pull my 16 ft car trailer with various stuff in it. I did pull my JK also and the was about as heavy as a load it the WJ could handle. It had the power but not the weight to handle any kind of heavier load.

sport454
12-07-2007, 12:55 AM
I got a good deal on my 01 Duramax with a Automatic. I love it.

http://www.mudstruck.com/pictures/sport/Photo0007.jpg

It pulls this with no problems, did I mention I love it.


EVEN if CJ does make fun of me when I put the little CJ5 on my 16ft trailer and haul it around.....he says something like "that sure is a lot of Chevrolet just to haul a Jeep Around.":grin:

http://www.mudstruck.com/pictures/sport/Photo0008.jpg

C.j.
12-11-2007, 12:51 PM
Uh oh! You should have washed the 4-5-4 before you took that pic. :shocked::grin::grin:

I heard that truck had a time pulling those 2 RX-7s of XXXJs:vrolijk_26: I cant wait to see it with that new Blazer and BananaBoats Bronco on that trailer. Gonna have to put some wide load signs on it though... Maybe even a warning light for aircraft.

sport454
12-11-2007, 07:14 PM
I will put a receiver hitch on the front and design a slide in hitch with a racing bucket...that way you can sit out front for us and wave people out of the way. If you are good I will give you a bull horn and pink socks so they will notice you easier......LOL

gr8outdoorzman
12-11-2007, 08:18 PM
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/9366/isaac031fj6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


I found this in Dallas

rovernut
12-12-2007, 12:50 AM
Throw a handful of Viagra in the tank...it'll pull it then.:grin:

tazz
01-21-2008, 04:43 PM
Ok so I am new to this forum, so I thought I would start by showing my rig. Its a 99 F350 with the powerstroke and auto trans. I like the auto just cause I am lazy and hate having to shift all the time.


http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o110/bear501photos/DSCN0051.jpg

C.j.
01-21-2008, 05:45 PM
Nice looking set up you got there. I am really liking that trailer. If the deal works out with the Power Stroke I'm looking at I wanna get something like that.

Scuba Jeepster
01-21-2008, 09:02 PM
Wow Looks great I like that ... ALOT.

tazz
01-22-2008, 05:39 PM
Nice looking set up you got there. I am really liking that trailer. If the deal works out with the Power Stroke I'm looking at I wanna get something like that.


Wow Looks great I like that ... ALOT.


Thanks. I just got this done at the end of summer, but I like it alot as well. I still got to build some boxes under the overhang of the camper part for parts/tool storage.

ExTankerguy
01-23-2008, 10:43 AM
I use my wife's DD for a tow rig...

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a318/extankerguy/Misc%203/Picture.jpg

Shawn
01-26-2008, 01:55 PM
Not planning on towing with this much farther than Arkansas or surrounding states, but this outta get the job done OK with some trailer brakes on it. Bought it today, it only has about 650+ HP to the wheels on pump gas. :smiley: I'm gonna have to ditch the rear bumper, and get a roll pan and hidden hitch, that stock rear bumper looks bad IMHO.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2275/2085178852_ebb149ed44_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2036/2085178334_e465fdb47d_b.jpg

BJ_Richardson
01-26-2008, 03:26 PM
what's under the hood?:shocked:

Shawn
01-26-2008, 04:22 PM
what's under the hood?:shocked:

Engine Specs:


Fully built 1996 LT1 by John Simms at Bobby Shahan Race Cars in Cabot, AR (Machine work by Eddie Hines)
Just finished in July/August 2006 and currently has about 4400 miles on it
1996 Corvette 4 bolt main LT1 Block
Vortech T-Trim Supercharger, custom oil feed with separate oil filter
8.3:1 compression
Custom JE Forged Pistons, molybdenum SWAIN coated
Childs and Albert 5/64ths Gapless Piston Rings
Air Flow Research AFR 190 heads
Cometic Head Gaskets
Ported and polished intake (intake itself is not polished, internal only)
52mm Throttle Body, with airfoil, ported and polished (Throttle Body itself is not polished, internal only)
Pro Mod 6” Rods
H-11 1.500 Springs
Titanium valve spring retainers
Manley ProFlow valves, 2.02 intake, 1.6 exhaust
Roller Rockers
.080 Pushrods
Camshaft – 218/224 roller with 112 separation and .560 lift
8 rib custom serpentine belt drive
Custom mounted Spearco air-to-air intercooler
MSD Pro Billet Optispark Unit
Mezeire Electric Water Pump
Crane Fireball Coil
MSD 6BTM Ignition
78lb/hr Seimens Injectors
Fully Stand-Alone F.A.S.T. ECU with F.A.S.T. WIring Harness and lots of add-on options.
All Aluminum Racing Radiator with dual electric fans (one pusher, one puller)
Hooker competition series long tube headers
Full 3” true dual exhaust, no cats, dual Borla XR1 racing mufflers

Ranger_man
01-26-2008, 06:10 PM
One of the guys I work with knows this truck in great detail. It originally made about 700, and has been reworked to about 740HP

Shawn
01-26-2008, 07:01 PM
One of the guys I work with knows this truck in great detail. It originally made about 700, and has been reworked to about 740HP

shhh, it's supposed to be a sleeper. :grin:

BJ_Richardson
01-26-2008, 07:42 PM
shhh, it's supposed to be a sleeper. :grin:

then keep the bumper and get some cragars and cooper cobras :grin:

RxMan
01-26-2008, 09:45 PM
I'm sure the tires and wheels will be the first thing he changes on it. They usually are on all his rides.... :grin:

C.j.
01-27-2008, 10:05 AM
Sweet:smiley: How bout some motor pics?

Well if it didnt already have a fade job on it I would say loose all the moldings and the back bumper. Leave the front I kinda like the diesel bumps on them. Paint the handles and some body color mirrors. :thumbsup:


If you are gonna get New wheels what you gonna do with those:vrolijk_26:

Shawn
01-27-2008, 12:03 PM
Sweet How bout some motor pics?

Well if it didnt already have a fade job on it I would say loose all the moldings and the back bumper. Leave the front I kinda like the diesel bumps on them. Paint the handles and some body color mirrors. :thumbsup:


If you are gonna get New wheels what you gonna do with those :vrolijk_26:

Yeah the front bumper kind of needs to stay anyway, there's an intercooler behind there and the holes serve a purpose. I'd be willing to be it is painted underneath the side moldings, I may try to take one off and see how easy it is to get off. I was already thinking about that. I want to get some of the sport mirrors and paint them body color (top part of the body is the stock GM color, should match pretty good.) As far as the wheels go, yes I am likely to change them, I have a pretty good track record of changing wheels multiple times on pretty much every vehicle I have (other than the wife's.) I'll sell these if I buy more. It has Weld Wheels 17x10 on all four corners right now. Here are a couple of engine bay shots.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2067/2085176032_a93d0dd92e_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2233/2085176616_cf7529c881_b.jpg

BJ_Richardson
01-27-2008, 12:32 PM
so when you two gonna line them up?


should be a test of who can hook up:grin:

C.j.
01-27-2008, 12:59 PM
should be a test of who can hook up:grin:


Ha Ha! neither! But I think he would still take me.



That is a nice truck. I would be interested in the wheels if you do. Is that a Show trucks USA, Dixie customs or such factory paint job? They never take them off:mad:. I hope it has been repainted it would look sweet without them. Holler at me I can get them off if you need.

What year? From the grill and mirrors I would say '94??

Shawn
01-27-2008, 01:34 PM
It's a 92, and I think the grill has been swapped to a 94-98 style. It was painted by a former shop manager at one of the major dealership's paint shop. I can say it's an awesome fade job, and I'm pretty picky about stuff like that. I may also holler when I get a roll pan and mirrors that need painted.

EDIT: Just looked, and I think the trim was left on when it was painted. I'll look closer later.

Shawn
01-28-2008, 12:46 AM
Hey CJ, would you get a steel, urethane, or fiberglass roll pan for the back? I was thinking steel with a license box in the middle.

sport454
01-28-2008, 01:42 PM
Thats better than the duramax's Ive seen. They all seem to get about 10mpg pulling anything. Nice looking truck though:smiley:


My Duramax did 15mpg pulling a 32ft gooseneck loaded with 2 4 door 94-95 Blazers..driving 65-70..like anything it depends on how you drive it....I can make mine get 10mpg..but I need to drive it like I stole it to do so..

If I keep it at or under 2000 rpm it does great, however I do have a 2001 and I pulled up to the pumps the other day and there was a 2007 2500 Duramax and he said the best he could do was 11mpg....:shocked:

710 Cap
01-28-2008, 08:57 PM
Sweet ride man. I will agree, lose the rear bumper.

C.j.
01-29-2008, 07:41 AM
Hey CJ, would you get a steel, urethane, or fiberglass roll pan for the back? I was thinking steel with a license box in the middle.

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ElkyRacer
01-29-2008, 08:56 PM
T-Trim! wow! thats a healthy blower!! How much boost is it making. What tranny has it got behind it? Nice setup.

Shawn
01-29-2008, 10:21 PM
T-Trim! wow! thats a healthy blower!! How much boost is it making. What tranny has it got behind it? Nice setup.

Thanks guys. It's running about 16PSI right now, and it has a built T400 with a 3000 stall, and a Gear Vendors Overdrive setup behind that. Auburn Posi in the rear with 3.42's, and a custom 4-link with ladder bars and coilovers.

BJ_Richardson
01-29-2008, 10:30 PM
nice.....it might hook up afterall!

XXXJ
01-30-2008, 05:30 PM
Thanks guys. It's running about 16PSI right now, and it has a built T400 with a 3000 stall, and a Gear Vendors Overdrive setup behind that. Auburn Posi in the rear with 3.42's, and a custom 4-link with ladder bars and coilovers.

Just wondering your not really planning on towing or daily driving that thing with a 3000 RPM stall on the tranny are you???

sureshot40sw
01-30-2008, 11:08 PM
I'm not saying your wrong, but those sure look like centerline wheels... :confused:


thats one sweet ride.... :shocked:

Shawn
01-31-2008, 12:04 AM
I'm not saying your wrong, but those sure look like centerline wheels... :confused:


thats one sweet ride.... :shocked:

Thanks, and yes they are Centerline wheels, I was looking at some Weld Wheels to put on it when I typed that.

TURNEROFFROAD
04-03-2008, 07:22 AM
Got a new tow rig this week, 2006 Dodge Cummins Mega cab 2500 4x4 (white of course). getting leveling kit and goose-neck hitch next week and 35's soon. Boy it needs mods to be like my old truck, but it sure is roomy

Shawn
04-03-2008, 08:00 PM
Actually used mine to tow with today, it pulled great. Thanks for letting me borrow your trailer Billy !

http://www.ayresweb.com/buggy/on_trailer/loaded_and_ready_2_1024_P1030855.jpg

http://www.ayresweb.com/buggy/on_trailer/ready_and_loade_5_1024_P1030854.jpg

http://www.ayresweb.com/buggy/on_trailer/loaded_and_ready_1024_P1030851.jpg

BJ_Richardson
04-15-2008, 09:50 PM
I had a blowout and about lost the dodge at 60mph on 270, luckily noone was in the other lane:sad:


After doing a good check of my tires, it looks like they are all starting to dry rot a bit (5 year old factory tires and 30k miles) so I ordered up a set of these today:smiley: along with a leveling kit and new shocks.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/lrc4x4/miscellanious/m-16.jpgSS-M16 in a 295/70R17 (33.5x12). The Dodge has 32.5's stock and 3.92's so it should pull them along just fine.

I've been eyeballing these for a while and just now noticed the ammo on the sidewall:grin:

Tweeder
04-15-2008, 10:03 PM
lol....well, why'd ya think they called em the M16?:grin:

BJ_Richardson
04-21-2008, 03:58 PM
Got the new rubber mounted, the noise level is about that of a BFG all terrain, with a slightly higher pitched howl. With the radio on a normal listening level (can speak over it), I can't hear or feel the tires. It is a little high pitched at 70MPH with the windows down but no worse than any other MT I've owned.

They needed between 3-4 oz per wheel to balance, and run perfect down the road.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/lrc4x4/miscellanious/dodge002.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/lrc4x4/miscellanious/dodge003.jpg


The truck has 42.5k miles (for my records), If someone bumps me in a few months I'll report back with wear.

Shawn
04-21-2008, 10:10 PM
Nice. I think they look more aggressive mounted than they did stacked up. Looks good. :)

Tweeder
04-21-2008, 10:17 PM
looks damn good. be nice if they made em in about a 31x10.50R15 (or better yet, a 31x9.50R15....my wheels would like that size better)

jeependude
04-22-2008, 01:02 AM
Do that look like a newer version of a thornbird to you? The gaps in the tread are closer together and no as deep on the side lugs.

BJ_Richardson
04-22-2008, 09:32 PM
Do that look like a newer version of a thornbird to you? The gaps in the tread are closer together and no as deep on the side lugs.


Take out the center block and it is a tight tread Bogger

Notman
05-07-2008, 07:59 PM
Picked up a tow rig:vrolijk_26:
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e78/Notman/DSC01948.jpg

Now I just need a trailer and to find the heep after the move.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e78/Notman/DSC01947.jpg

BlackXJ
05-07-2008, 08:37 PM
Good lookin rig! No unbury that Jeep!!!!!!!!!:grin::grin:

Tweeder
05-07-2008, 10:10 PM
i thot you said you got a tow rig...........

Notman
05-07-2008, 10:40 PM
I did get the Jeep dug out to give it a drive to get the fluids moving. I am not going to have much time to wheel the season. I have one bathroom riped out and have to add one and move the kitchen in the new house. Also removing a wall to open things up. Windows should be in this weekend then its time for siding and gutters. I plan on doing pretty much all of it myself so time will be very limited for wheeling.

If I can get all that done plus all the smaller projects this summer I am hopping to get some axles and a cage in the Jeep this fall/winter.

weekender1969
05-12-2008, 01:07 AM
I did get the Jeep dug out to give it a drive to get the fluids moving. I am not going to have much time to wheel the season. I have one bathroom riped out and have to add one and move the kitchen in the new house. Also removing a wall to open things up. Windows should be in this weekend then its time for siding and gutters. I plan on doing pretty much all of it myself so time will be very limited for wheeling.

If I can get all that done plus all the smaller projects this summer I am hopping to get some axles and a cage in the Jeep this fall/winter.

That's a fine looking rig you got there!! I am looking at a 1500 4x4 my pop has at the time, he keeps saying he is gonna sell it but never does:undecided:.
When he does I will finally have a tow rig.
Not claiming any skill, but let me know if you need a hand with the home, I may have some free time in the near future. If nothing else, I got wuite a bit of tools that could use a run through to make sure they still work.
Well Scott, I hope to see ya on the trail soon:).

dragline
06-09-2008, 10:07 PM
Imma newby... but this is my big baby...
http://http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh19/sundown_27/350night.jpg

http://http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh19/sundown_27/tn.jpg


It's paid for. It'll pull a building off its foundation! But deisel is killing me!!!

C.j.
06-12-2008, 09:41 PM
I cant see them man.

XXXJ
06-13-2008, 02:02 PM
oh great another mudder